requirements:

  • public transit
  • AZA-/EAZA-/WAZA-accredited zoo
    • d would like a panda
  • art gallery
    • i would like a turner
  • we will not be cold
  • ideally this will be a food-based experience

possible destinations:

  • montreal
    • pros
      • affordable flights
    • cons
      • we have been there together before (but not since we were 13)
      • no panda
      • biodome is kind of a weak zoo offering (but it does have multiple animals i would like to see)
      • previously in quebec i mixed up the words "jambe" and "jambon" when trying to order a pizza with ham and i am still haunted by it
      • in general i am not great at french (see previous point)
      • last time we were there we had some ghost activity and like, what if it's still there. what if it remembers us
  • toronto
    • pros
      • undoubtedly the cheapest flight options
      • great zoo
      • i have friends to visit
    • cons
      • incredibly not-cheap lodgings
      • we have been there before (though not together)
      • i don't really have anything i want to do there
      • the iconic shithole pizza place i loved has closed
      • weakest possible turner and it's not on display
      • having friends to visit means being obligated to visit friends
  • vienna
    • accredited zoo with pandas
    • number one on my list of destinations, so much stuff i wanna do there!
    • lots of art but no turners
      • BUT this is a pricier destination and i will be going there at some point regardless, it would be amazing to split the cost of accommodations and then i can see a turner on my own sometime instead of dragging poor d around
  • brugelette
    • pairi daiza in brugelette has pandas!
      • BUT most stuff we would want to do is in brussels or elsewhere
  • boston
    • pros
      • MULTIPLE accredited zoos
      • so many museums
      • a turner on view in the museum of fine arts AND some great etruscan funerary sculpture i would love to see up close
    • cons
      • i would be absolutely insufferable trying to navigate by where things were located in fallout 4
      • no pandas?
  • washington/baltimore
    • pros
      • panda
      • smithsonian
      • national gallery admission is free (vs. $27 to the mfa in boston BUT i would get to see a turner there)
    • cons
      • as far as i can tell there are a lot of turners in various galleries but none on view, which is simply rude
  • to write up later: cincinnati, san diego
  • other considerations:
    • since i started making this list ages ago, some pandas have left zoos i mentioned above (i think?).
    • will any zoos in usa/canada even have pandas soon with all the tensions with china.
    • did d ever renew her passport, and would she be willing to do a longer flight (like california) if the payoff is pandas. does she still even want to maybe go to the states given this current political context
      • 2025 update: well now i certainly don't wanna go there lmfao
    • what is even our budget (how was this the one thing we didn't discuss)
nov 10 2024 ∞
apr 11 2025 +